Jane meets with Ziggy’s psychologist after bringing Ziggy in because of the accusations that he has been bullying Amabella. While Ziggy plays in a separate glassed-off room, the psychologist tells Jane that Ziggy is articulate, confident, kind, and unusually considerate.

Jane anxiously asks whether Ziggy could be a hidden bully. The psychologist says Ziggy clearly denied hurting Amabella and that she would be very surprised if he were lying. Ziggy does not show typical signs of a bullying personality; instead, he shows empathy and sensitivity.

The psychologist briefly unsettles Jane by joking about psychopathy, then clarifies that she does not think Ziggy is a psychopath. However, the psychologist wants to see Ziggy again soon because Ziggy seems anxious and may be withholding something. The psychologist suggests that Ziggy himself may be bullied at school, possibly through verbal taunting.

The psychologist also reveals that Ziggy is anxious about his father. Ziggy has framed his unknown father through Star Wars villains, imagining him as a Stormtrooper, Jabba the Hutt, or Darth Vader. The psychologist explains that Ziggy may be mixing fantasy with reality, but he has clearly absorbed the idea that his father is frightening and mysterious.

Jane is shaken when she learns Ziggy has noticed that talking about his father upsets her. Ziggy warned the psychologist to be careful because Jane gets a “funny look” on her face. Jane realizes that despite trying to protect Ziggy, her trauma has reached him, and she admits only that Ziggy’s father was “not exactly” a good man.